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Peace Throgh Superior Firepower

Oh how angry this one will make people when it ends up on a T-shirt that I happen to wear. Or the sticker that may end up on my vehilce.
Most certainly will end up on my "bag of tricks" and AR case. May even show up on my bail out bag.
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KomisarioPalmu Featured By Owner May 8, 2013
If you desire peace, you have to prepare for war.
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Bears54 Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2013
The best kind of diplomacy.
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infinite9 Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2012
I agree completely with this piece.
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TheLastIronMan Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2010  Hobbyist Writer
Shit yeah.
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JacquelineRae Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2009
It is really sad that in America of all places people are now starting to have issues with gun owners and CCW holders. Somehow I doubt Jefferson, Franklin, Paine and Washington would be pleased about things like the "assault weapons ban"
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hellion Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
The weird thing is where I live in Montana, with a few exceptions, it's really no big deal. My CCW permit was renewed in 3 days and it was fairly convenient because I had 2 officers at the sheriff's office vouching for my character and saying "we want him armed".

But I still cannot lawfully carry at the Post Office or at a Bank, or at the University or any school. Even though me with my weapon there may save lives. Beyond that, nobody but me will know I have it unless I need to use it to stop a crime.

I think it's really a major mis-perception of what firearms are, how they can be used defensively, and why it is so very important that those willing and responsible ARE armed. It's like having tens of thousands of free cops!
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JacquelineRae Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2009
I have my CCW too and it really pisses me off that I can't carry to school. Ohio is actually pretty good about our gun laws for the most part too, however you are right in that there is a common mis-perception about firearms from people that are not experienced with them. It drives me absolutely insane when I tell someone that I have my CCW and their response is "Oh, I'll be careful not to piss you off!" Because obviously everyone that is interested in guns is automatically unstable and dangerous. Maybe it's my own fault for going to such a liberal college, haha.
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hellion Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
I went to the University of Montana. Berkeley of the Northwest, I feel your pain. Though it is very, very hard to find a conservative or even centrist University anymore. In fact I was a sworn peace officer when in college and I could STILL not carry my weapon while attending classes! How screwed up is that!?

They really do confuse just because you can, because you take your defensive art seriously, you must be dangerous and wish harm on others. I think THEY would and that is the only reason they would carry a weapon so the assumption is that's why you do too. I also do not see exactly how my martial art is any different than someone knowing Kung-Fu or Karate to a similar proficiency. Mine just ends fights in an extremely decisive fashion and there are few situations that are beyond me if I am armed, it's very freeing. I do not need to fear anyone or anything.

I've found that people with CCWs are calmer, more rational, slower to anger, and tend to make better decisions overall than the general population. In fact when I was a cop I tended to treat CCW permits as "confirmed good guy" cards.
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Sovelist Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2008
I want this as a shirt pretty please lol :D
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hellion Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2008  Professional Digital Artist
Maybe someday. I'll probably be re-doing this design in vector soon anyway.

That means decals!
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Sovelist Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2008
wahhh w00ttt
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PaulStrealer Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2008  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
It's good advice(be peaceful, but when necessary crush them utterly).

I need this as a shirt.
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SentWest Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2008
Great symbol, though living in CA it probably wouldn't be wise to wear it at all.

I've always said that the best way to peace is having the highest principles and the biggest stick.
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hellion Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2008  Professional Digital Artist
Absolutely, and know how to use said stick.

The "Walk/Speak softly, and carry a big stick" is just oozing with wisdom. Be decent, be good, be reasonable... but when it's time to be not-nice crush them. If they know you have this ability and are willing to do it, they are less likely to let it get to that point.
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tori-margaret Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2007
that's awesome.
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crownish Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2007
neat
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PeaceOut Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2007  Hobbyist Photographer
War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.
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hellion Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2007  Professional Digital Artist
Let's see, how many times has that been said on this piece... ol' 1984 there. Seems like it has been said 1984 times, like, it's been brainwashed into a chant and parroted to me.

How about this one "You ensure peace by preparing for war"
From one of my favorite presidents "Speak softly, and carry a big stick" - T. Roosevelt. People are more likely to listen if they know you will follow through on what you say if they don't behave.
"History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid." - Dwight D. Eisenhower.

You do not kick the big beastly dog, because the big beastly dog might bite you.

You break into the house with no locks, a flimsy door, and a sign that says "gun free home" on it; Not the one with the solid hardwood door, sturdy construction, the chow dog barking at you from within, and the distinct sound of an AR charging handle being released.

You don't poke a grizzly bear with a stick now do you?
And why don't you poke a Grizzly? Because it will swat you into the next county. Leave the bear alone and you're safe and so is the bear, probably. Bear does something and you need some superior firepower of your own.
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PeaceOut Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2007  Hobbyist Photographer
So there is no chance of any sort of peace ever? Thats quite a sad thought.

Maybe we should just bully all weaker nations, that would show power. If your notion of bravery and courage and power is whoever has the bigger guns then there is not much hope for this world.

I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent.
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hellion Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2007  Professional Digital Artist
No, that's quite untrue indeed.
My opinion is that the best way to ensure the peace is to make war an absolutely terrifying of a possibility. Mostly because those that you attack will wholesale slaughter you if you do. Why do you think the Israelis have not been engaged in open war since the 6 Day War? Or the Continental United States not invaded since we annexed Texas? Look what happened when Japan tried to invade Hawaii we ended up annihilating their fleet, lesson to all those who would attack us. Heck, look what happened to the Taliban and Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan, they didn't believe we'd retaliate (because for the prior 8 years we had not). To them our weapons were just symbolic only, something scary that we'd never use... wrong calculation there.

There are nations on this Earth that will go out of their way to NOT use their military. The US, Australia, Israel, the UK, and Germany are on that list. Also happens that these nations have the best militaries. Thing is, these bears keep getting poked with the belief a swat will not happen, or that the bear lacks the will to retaliate to the harm.

I might be more into the war only causes evil thing if it weren't for WW2, the American Revolution, The American Civil War (horrible by all accounts one of the worst seen on earth... but it was the end to wholesale slavery, wasn't pretty but wouldn't have happened any other way), the action we SHOULD have taken in Rwanda in the 1990s, the stopping of the cleansing of the ethnic Albanians, what happened after we failed to continue force in Somalia, what's happening now at our failure to use force in Darfur, the freeing of the Afghan people, the protection of the Kuwaitis (Kuwait is not part of Iraq now because of what we did in 1991), I'm hoping the freeing of the Iraqi people (but they definitely need to get their act together). Those are all examples of where us not sitting back and letting and evil act be committed BY going and actually doing something real about it, not just flapping our jaw made a difference in the course of the world. I mean our rebuke of Hitler in 1939 did not stop him from driving tanks into Poland and later France.

If we did not intervene in WW2, there would be no more Jews or Africans. At best they would be a slave race.
I can't say that what we did there was wrong and made more evil... It was about as close to good vs evil and good winning in a big way as you get.
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tetrarchangel Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2007  Hobbyist Writer
I thought this was ironic. It's certainly thought-provoking.
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time-capsule Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2006
Oh man! This is all kindsa awesome!

:D
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Sablelieger Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2006
Dibs on the shirt if it comes out! Nice khaki tan short sleeved shirt with t elogo on the back and a smaller up front; perfect with my DCU trousers and my Line 1 gear. w00t! :shakefist:
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HumanityInGeneral Featured By Owner Sep 26, 2006   Writer
This is great! Pretty hilarious.

... Unless you're being serious. Please don't be being serious.
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hellion Featured By Owner Sep 26, 2006  Professional Digital Artist
Somewhat serious.
Designed to piss off hippies.
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HumanityInGeneral Featured By Owner Sep 26, 2006   Writer
Heh, fair enough.

I suppose I can forgive you for now.
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Sovelist Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2006
man I'd friggen wear this on a shirt with out a dought! My mood is love because I am in love with this lol
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76 Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2006
Ah, but how does asymmetrical and proxy warfare play into this statement? I see where you're coming from, but I have a hard time believing any ideas about peace. It's a pipe dream in my opinion.

Interesting design, I like that it's not perfectly symetrical. Keeps it interesting.
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hellion Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2006  Professional Digital Artist
I have trouble believing any ideas about peace as well. That's kind of the idea behind this. The kind of peace that you hear about and we had drilled into us in school can't happen. You'll always need to be able to show force and use force. Maybe in limited ways, but it will certainly be devistating. If they don't believe you will use it then they'll do what they want with impunity (recent Israel vs Hezbollah conflict is a good example, they didn't think Israel would/could attack). Firepower isn't just the weapons themselves, but the PR behind them (this is where Israel lost).

Asymmetrical warfare is having the superior force and tactics necessary to operate wherever you need to. Imagine if in Iraq the coalition and insurgents were on a level playing field. Only reason we have a chance there is because of the superior firepower the west has brought to that situation.

It applies to our police forces as well (kind of an asymmetrical warfare). North Hollywood shootout is a great example. Badguys had superior firepower on that one and it resulted in one of the longest gunbattles in police history. Since then the police have done their best to regain the firepower advantage. People don't try things when they know the cops will take them out.

Proxy warfare is interesting. Really only works well when the superior force doesn't know you are doing it (I assume you're referencing the current deal with Iran on this one?). If they know you are doing it, then things get a lot more muddy. Really one nation goes to do something like that in order to reduce those firepower levels to where they can be dealt with. Yet another tactic. But, if such a strategy is successful, then the firepower really wasn't that superior in the first place. In the case of Iran they are a different animal than what has been dealt with frequently over the past 25 years or so. Peace can't happen totally, however you can reduce the duration, impact, and hopefully frequency of warfare by having decisive winners. Hopefully before the fight even begins.

Now the 24 hour media complicates matters greatly, but that's another issue/story. Thanks for the comment.
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namikaa Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2006
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It's true until it's the people who truly want peace who posess that firepower. But a problem is that sometimes certain ones do not realize fighting that power isn't worth it because they will lose anyways, causing lots of trouble and preventing the peace...
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Seven-Fourteen Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2006
Looks good. I think it would be more effective if the hand guns didn't have what looks like laser sights on the bottom of the barrel. Right now the side arms are alot more thicker than the rifle, a more slender hand gun would give the piece a better overall balance.
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hellion Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2006  Professional Digital Artist
Yeah, that's my Kimber 1911 with the X200 weapon light on there. It doesn't like to come off. :)

I was going to do the rifle so that it would be thicker. Might do that in the future. Problem is if you enlarge the rifle then it overwhelms the piece.
Thanks for the suggestion.
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MrZonko Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2006
Ireland isn't armed, its Army only ~4000 soldiers, and it hasn't had a war since it got its freedom, whereas America is armed to the teeth, and to the best of my recollection has never been properly at peace. =p
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hellion Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2006  Professional Digital Artist
We'll technically it is armed if you think about the IRA. Not really properly at peace either as they've been trying to take back the Northern Counties.

We've never been properly at peace as a nation because as much as the world say they hate it, they expect us to police their neighbors with our neat stuff. They don't want to get involved, so they let/make the US do it. We also have this way of going to help our allies when they are threatened, just because they are our allies.
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MrZonko Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2006
The IRA disbanded last year after giving violence a few years ago. I was reffering to the south though, where the IRA don't operate anyway. As for the claim of the US being the world police, that's what we have the UN for, as much as right wing like to deny it, it's true.
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hellion Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2006  Professional Digital Artist
The UN has absolutely no authority though.
Really their enforcement must be conducted by member states with the capability. Those states right now are the US, Canada, UK, Australia, and Germany. Interestingly increasingly Poland, Turkey, and Japan are taking on that role. When things are really dicey usually it is the US and UK that are asked by the UN to respond, if the UN ever gets around to passing the appropriate resolutions encouraging action. Even then, it is just an encouragement, not a dispatch that is binding and must be upheld.
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MrZonko Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2006
There hasn't actually been a situation where the US have actually policed anything without having a hidden agenda. To think there is peace because of the yanks weapons is very niave. There hasn't been a case where it was actually benificial for the US to attack. If they were really the worlds police like they claim to be, Israel wouldn't be getting away with genocide, and somthing would be done about North Korea.

The UNs sole purpose has always been to prevent World War III, generally with bickering between countries the UN wont get involved, although there are people from many countries (including Ireland and Finland for example), in places such as Kosovo keeping the peace, and making sure civilians aren't being slaughered. Although they aren't doing anything in Iraq, where American troops have killed at least 40,000 innocent people already.
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hellion Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2006  Professional Digital Artist
World won't let us do something about North Korea. Even before Iraq. Heck, even before Afghanistan.
That's the problem with being the cops, you need to keep some good relations with your fellow officers and those you are acting on the behalf of. Right now they're saying "You really need to keep talking wiht NK". It's a lot like having a suspect you know murdered somebody but you need to sit there and get a confession out of them because the DA refuses to let you search their house under warrant or prosecute with what you have.

Actually Kosovo and Bosnia are good examples of the US doing a police thing as part of NATO. As I said, other nations stepped up and helped as they often do. Operation Iraqi Freedom is no exception to that. It isn't just the US doing all the work, we're kind of like that badass cop (UK gets this title too) that goes in and deals with it as the others come in and do what they can. I'm totally okay with that.
Somalia would have been a great police action if Clinton would have stuck to it (and we'd be in a better situation right now with Islamic Radicalism). Iraq the first time certainly was helping out our friends the Kuwaitis (and we got the Kurds as a new friend out of it. Both remain very friendly people to this day). Rwanda is IMO like the US being told about a rape that is occuring but the Police Chief (in this case the UN) explicitly tells the officer to ignore it.
How about the response to countless natural disasters? That's a police action too. Our military responded to the Indonesian Tsunami immediately to keep the peace and render aid. Yet, they get no credit for doing those type of things. Without our weaponry and technology, those actions wouldn't be possible. The same Nimitz class carrier that assists in attacking the Taliban can also dispatch aid craft to disaster struck areas.
Then there is the amount of weaponry and technologies that go from the battlefield to law enforcement at home. It is absolutely amazing how much stuff the average officer uses to keep the peace here that was once in a defense contractor's lab intended for the US military. A lot of it was used by the military then we found that there were excellent applications at home. That also all kicks into "Superior Firepower", doesn't just have to be technologies you use to kill people.
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MrZonko Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2006
The rescue missions you mentioned, and peace keeping missions, America hadn't led in any of them, they were just one more set of hands. In the Indonesian Tsunami, Amazon and the NL both dedicated more each than America did. As for those other countries, like Rwanda and Somalia, it's got nothing, at all, to do with the US. The notion they're doing it to help the people there is laughable. Making war related companies richer by invading a country and killing almost as many civvies, if not more, indirectly is the lowest of the low. Mentioning Iraq as an example of a country where the US helped is laughable. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it, Iraq weren't a threat to anyone. They did however, have oil. You also mention the world wont allow you to do anythign about North Koera, I can't see the US waiting for permission if they really wanted to fight it, tbh/
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hellion Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2006  Professional Digital Artist
Who was at the Tsunami first? The US Navy. Who was there before anyone mandated them to go and the money started pouring in? The US Navy. All that stuff you mentioned was well after the fact.

The US led in Somalia, unfortunately we left.
The US certainly was pivital in Kosovo. It was our airpower that did that vast majority of the work. Peacekeeping efforts later used a large number of US marines. Same with Bosnia. There was a time between about 1996 and 2000 that if you were a Marine you were likely to be deployed to either Bosnia or Kosovo (invasion of Kosovo was 1999).
What do you mean Somalia and Rwanda have nothing to do with the US? 800,000 people died because our UN ambassador was playing politics and our president was afraid of being seen as a "wag the dog". General Dellaire (an American) was BEGGING for US marines so that he could keep that atrocity from occuring.
Somalia was designed to get food to the people and hinder the warlord's grips over all things there. Clinton chickened out, but the mission was fully able to be accomplished if it would have been executed using the full range of our capabilities.

Do you know who makes US weapons?
Firearms manufacturers - Colt, FN (actually based in Belgium), Beretta (actually based in Italy), Heckler and Koch (based in Germany), Smith and Wesson, Springfield Armory, and Barrett. Those companies get "richer" from US law enforcement and civilians than they do any military action.
Here's some more that are diversified - Lockheed Martin (also makes our space exploration devices, sattellite launch devices, and a handful of civilian aircraft), Boeing (makes the rest of the space exploration/launch devices, drones for law enforcement, and many civilian aircraft), Newport News (also builds cruiseliners and other large ships), Texas Instruments (all sorts of electronic devices, btw they make many of our bombs), Raytheon (consumer navigational devices and other consumer electronics). This list can continue. The idea that these companies need a conflict to prosper is wrong, they do just fine without one because their business isn't just in that one spot.
Even IMI and Federal ammunition sell huge quantities to the civilian market. The military just ups the price a tad because of extra demand, no problems getting ahold of ammo and the companies do fine either way.
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maverick-decadence Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2006
I know of at least a half dozen people who would love this shirt, and that's not including me. I'm not sure what that says about my group of friends really... but at least we all agree on one thing. :D
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hellion Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2006  Professional Digital Artist
Hey, that's totally okay.
I never expected everyone to agree when I uploaded this. Actually expected quite the opposite.
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maverick-decadence Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2006
So does that mean you are pleasantly surprised with the response? If you get around to getting them printed, update it somewhere. I'd buy two or three for me alone and another couple for gifts at least.
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hellion Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2006  Professional Digital Artist
No, most people who are going to say something say something pretty hostile. Here they are the screaming lefties that freak out when I wear my "road kill cafe" or am out in public wearing a pro-cop shirt, or if I look a little too tactical for their tastes. Those that agree or don't care aren't likely to say anything at all. Maybe just get a smile and nod.

Sounds like I might almost have to do a cafepress version.
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maverick-decadence Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2006
I've shown three people the design so far and one guy wants three and another is interested in two. The first guy is a member of a gun club so you know they'll enjoy it.

I've run into similar screaming lefties and I just have to shake my head. If there weren't men out there doing the job, there wouldn't be the ability for them to run their mouths. That seems to be a distinction that's lost on most of them.

Ah well, keep telling it like it is and seriously let me know if you do Cafepress the shirt.
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bluefluke Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2006
I'm guessing you like negative attention, am I right?
You should just make a shirt that says: "LOOK AT ME!"

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hellion Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2006  Professional Digital Artist
I have one of those.

You know that in my part of the world, some people say "Hell yeah" to things like this.
Actually check out the comments above, there are a lot of people who would fit in well where I come from.
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bluefluke Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2006
^_^ Honesty, okay that's surprising... I take back my statement then, lol.

Where you come from? Exlpain please.
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hellion Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2006  Professional Digital Artist
I'm from the Northern Rockies in the United States. It is clearly a "red state".
Lots of support for our military from this community. When our national guard unit came home we gave them a parade.
When one of our Marines was lost in Iraq every available law enforcement officer showed up to keep the protesters at bay that tried to disrepect his funeral.
Heck the community is even supportive of our cops (for the most part) when we have to take extreme action against a violent suspect.
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bluefluke Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2006
I don't see being "red" having much to do with being militant, if you go too far on either the left or right they get a bit, um, how should I say?
Aggressive. Not much difference really once you go to far in either direction, it's the "team mentality" thing. My team rocks, your teams sucks and so one. They become willing to harm and kill others for whatever group excepts them.
It's all a matter of how much you are willing to let others think for you. If you say "I am a leftwing" or "I am rightwing" then you
are letting someone choose your identity for you, even willing to don whatever "uniform" they give you. The gothdorks do it.
The homie g funks do it. Every social group does this. Very few people think for themselves.

Why support ALL cops? Some are heros, some are unfit to wear the uniform. It depends on the cop.
The military is good, that is a fact, you'd be retarded to believe elsewise. But not every war is a good idea.
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